February 9, 2010

Birth and Death in Seventh

Filed under: Concepts — anteolsson @ 14:55
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Excerpt from Where did I come from? by Roman Stalworth

It is commonly understood that the opposite to Life is Death. This is an impossible. Life is durative but Death is instant. Death is a critical point where one state changes to another. Life is a state where the state is and stays until it reaches Death. If Life is not the opposite to Death, what is? The opposite to Death is Birth. Like Death, Birth is a critical instant where one state changes to the other and this insight might shine some light on the question “What is the opposite of Life”. But before we go further from here we need to clear out what the state is before Birth and after Death. We must do this beacuse if Birth and Death are critical points that indicates a change in state, there must logically be a state before Birth and after Death.

There is a thery that states that before anything there has to be an Idea. It is then derived from there that the Idea itself must be a state which preceedes Birth. It preceedes all births, from the simplest to the most complex, as the birth of the Multiverse.

The Birth of man, then, is preceeded by the Idea of man or is it the idea of Life? The power that lies within an Idea is the Idea itself. It shapes itself and acts on forces that is inevetibly itself. If this circular thinking is true then the state after Death must also be an Idea, for this brings the span of Birth, Life and Death into a full circle that starts and ends with just an Idea.

It has been proposed that before everything there was only the Idea. The question that arises, then, is what was before the idea? In this school of thought the answer is simple, but unresting. The answer is that before the Idea is the Idea. The Idea is in itself circular and acts only on the forces that comes from itself. This leaves the Idea to be the beginning and end of everything.

From this comes the theories of the Power of Will, discussed elsewhere.

– Roman Stalworth



  1. After reading the last three entries I get a special “Planescape-feeling” for the world of Seventh!

    Comment by Jensan — February 9, 2010 @ 20:38 | Reply

    • I think that is because that game is probably the game that I draw most inspiration from. I chose to call the different philosophies for Factions (as in Planescape) because it has a smaller and more personal feeling to it, and I also think it is more gamy than calling it Philosophies or religions. The idea behind it is a theory I have had lately, which is largely based on neuroscientific suggestions and some other philosophies, including much of the philosophy planescape is built around.

      The last post about ideas I think is really beautiful, not what I wrote but the idea itself. It is exactly what religion is but just because people has: first tried to transfer their personal beliefs to others and a lot of time that has happend by force and manipulation, and secondly beacuse for some reason, Reason itself has been put on a pedestal and seems to win every modern argument just because it is Reason. In Planescape things are not just that easy as you can say that reason wins over everything and i want the same in Seventh.

      Lastly, Seventh is an imaginary world so everything that is in it is playful and it needs to stay that way. Much because playing is fun, rewarding, gratifying and you always learn more than you think.

      PS. that answer was a bit unnecesary long but I couldn’t stop=)

      Comment by anteolsson — February 9, 2010 @ 21:16 | Reply

  2. I find these kinds of logics a bit odd… why does opposites have to be similar?

    Isn’t an opposite just the furthest possible from the starting point? Or is it really essential that it runs along some can of common line, that it has something in common – in this example that it happens instantaneously?

    So opposites are found by following only one quality, while keeping all others similar, thus preserving some kind of symmetry?

    Comment by Anders — March 5, 2010 @ 13:06 | Reply

  3. Opposites does not have to be similar.

    In short, nothing can exist without its opposite, according to Roman Stalworth.

    Birth and Death according to Roman Stalworth are basically nothing. They are just indications of a transition. In this discussion birth and death are opposites in meaning and nothing else. It is the same as start and end.

    Comment by anteolsson — March 6, 2010 @ 23:14 | Reply

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